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SoundCloud shut us down – Would You fold your dream ?

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We started our journey two years ago. Friends for many years, we found our great passions connect:  our endless love for music, our deep connection to electronic music, along with our admiration for independent musicians and our strong connection to technology.  The stars aligned and timing was just right for us to join forces. And so we did, Soundudes was born.

Soundudes is was here for indie musicians to grow their audience and monetize their music,  by connecting them with relevant fans who would love their music, share it and support them – their Superfans.

It was a marathon in sprint-mode from that point on. Bootstrapping to prove our concept, and algorithm, connecting with our first users who trusted and supported us. Then came days and long hours of fine-tuning: adjusting our algorithm, building our 1st product, UX, UI,  to best serve our musicians. Proudly, we launched our beta to the world. We listened  to our users. Their feedback and inputs helped us to figure out what we needed to nail before launching.  

 

Success came knocking at our door 

We formally launched our public version in October 2015 ( read more about it in our hello world blog post).  Like our users, we worked hard, to grow our audience and find our Superfans. And we did.  

We built it, they came: We grew at 10% weekly, connected our users to many new fans and more engaged ones. The results and numbers surprised us at first.

sep_nov 2015 stats

Our users’ support and gratitude kept us going (link). Other players in our ecosystem started noticing and connecting with us, direct-to-fan, distribution, label services, others.   

In the past months, we were gearing to launch our premium tier (paying user plan).  We felt we are on the right track, and that we can live our dream too: build a business we are passionate about.  

And then we hit a dead-end

Regrettably, the attention and feedback we received turned against us.  Last week SoundCloud notified us they were to “limit our access to their API”.

We’ve been using their API for over 18 months.  We had meetings and conversations with the API technical people, and throughout the last 2 months, we worked with their biz dev/partnerships team, to understand what needs to happen for us to keep growing while playing by the book.  Imagine our surprise to receive SoundCloud’s notice!

We showed them we comply with their terms-of-use (their 1st claim). Then came their 2nd  claim: “community guidelines and daily limits”. Again, we showed them our alignment. 2 days  later came their last email (#3): “misuse of functionality” and the fact “they have features on the platform that recommended artists and tracks to people”.  

No one else is allowed to help artists connect with their fans? And in a different manner?

Their safety and trust team  rejected our explanations and many requests to  talk/meet/extend the deadline to allow us to clear this “misunderstanding” !

Win-win for all but not for SoundCloud

From its early days SoundCloud  “built great tools for creators, and then started building a community” (SoundCloud’s co-founder and CEO Billboard interview).

We followed a similar approach and built a win-win solution for everybody: the creators, the fans and the streaming platforms.

 

The empire needs you

 

But, SoundCloud decided that’s not good for them!  We feel confused.  Why ?

I looked up at SoundCloud which for years refused to play ball with the major labels and was considered disruptive.

The music industry is managed by the majors, who exercise dominant control of the music business. This is the indie musician/alternative music business battle which  SoundCloud was part of.

 

 

Could we outsmart SoundCloud and still use the API? Technically – We  sure can! But we choose not to.That’s the cat-and-mouse game others (read: bot companies) are playing.

We are here to help indie musicians and build great products for the millions of them out there. But if that’s not the case and we are forced to play this cat-and-mouse game, I choose to move on and seek other ways to achieve that.   

So long and thanks for the fish

It’s been a hell of a ride and I truly enjoyed it: Doing good, helping independent musicians, getting creative, innovating, building, connecting with a lot of new people and interesting companies, acquiring domain/market  expertise & understanding. The list is long, but the bottom line: we built a strong product,  fulfilled  our mission,  and made lots of musicians happy.

On a personal note, I would like to thank the thousands of artists who believed in us, enjoyed the service, and helped us to get better and better. Without you, we’d be nothing. Thank you for loving Soundudes from the beginning (link), spreading the word about us and showing your support in the last few days.

I’d like to thank our investors, advisors and everybody who took part in our journey.  Your support enabled us to build a business we are passionate about and help many musicians.

So for now, lights off.

I wish the alternative music business (not controlled by the majors) would grow and thrive.  I long to see the direct-to-fan revolution furthers develops and scale. All, so that musicians out there could live their dream. I wish there was more for me to do and contribute for this to happen. And I promise to keep looking.

Keep on, Keepin’ on, creating music. Because without music, life would be a mistake (Friedrich Nietzsche).

-jj

  • Its been a pleasure to work with you my friend ! and hope to engage with you on your next adventures ! <3

    • Jonathan Yaari

      Thank you my friend. Enjoyed very much the time we spent together. ???

  • When you guys first started I thought it was a scam, but now I see how much you guys really cared about this stuff. Thank y’all for everything you guys have done. Salute!

    • Jonathan Yaari

      Thanks so much for your warm words and for believing in us.???

  • Silverj Pravi

    Make your own soundcloud data base. I belive that a lot of artists are disappointed about SoundCloud and there service. Including me!! Soundudes was great idea and i wish you all the best. 🙂

    • Jonathan Yaari

      Many thanks for your support! ???

  • Art Benson

    You guys brought me from 160 to 500 followers in three month! Thanks so much for everything!

  • David Israel Santa-Axman

    man this sucks! we need you guys!!

  • Jerbo

    In three days you grow up followers, thanks! 🙂

  • George

    This news has really made me sad. It feels like a great injustice. I wish you the best in your next project.

  • Amann Hyatt

    You will be missed sound dudes you have helped not only me but thousand of artists to grow and i salute you, to bad sound cloud can’t see around this, but hay why not stay in touch.

  • Andreas

    hey guys! soundcloud is a joke!!!! All they want is our annual fee 🙁
    you guys created something great! it really worked! Its really sad to see that you can’t move on with it!!!
    I wish you all the best for the future…maybe you find a different way to make your app work!! I’ll keep my fingers crossed!!!

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  • I owe you guys a huge one! Sucks to see you instantly shut off, just like that. I hope that you guys haven’t been hit too hard by this setback in your goals. Keep on going because you can only do better! HUGE support. Cheers!

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  • Foster Frostie Spahn

    I just recently started trying to work my Souncloud account and find it’s super hard to get followers on there. Stumbled across this site a little too late I guess.
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  • Cino AkadjCino

    I´m the only one who thinks this could be a service of buying not real plays, followers, etc? Provably this was the cause of closing. Open yours eyes people!